10-20-25 savo
cerib.. you bought veni at destitute prices... it did not bother you... or me.
What fucked us was not destitution but sanctions which was the point under discussion... not peronism.
Peronism is ancient story... the guy died in 1973. Time to let him RIP.
What came after that are different form of local mafias.
In any case the EU is essentially peronist and the US is on its way. |
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10-20-25 carib
On Argy: Camilo Tiscornia: “Si tenemos guardados más de US$200.000 millones fuera del sistema, lo que falta es confianza, no dólares”..
is IMHO the point |
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10-20-25 carib
| The utter extermination, culturally and politically, of both Chavismo and Peronismo would mightly benefit latin america, IMHO. |
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10-20-25 carib
Savo: both, but only one at "bankrupt country" prices.
However, the typical retail bondholder, bought them not far from par, mainly attracted by high coupons.
The destruction of wealth that took place in Veny is independent from the price paid by creditors on secondary markets, and is a crime against a country's future.
It's true that with better elites Veny would not have ended up under Chavez (and Argentina under Peron). |
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10-20-25 savo
carib... did you buy your veni bonds at rich country prices or at destitute country prices?
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10-20-25 carib
| Manya might know about volumes |
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10-20-25 panasonic
Carib, moving slowly, if a big buyer shows up he won't find paper.
Volume must be quite low imho. |
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10-20-25 carib
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10-20-25 carib
| The ones who hit our pockets.. are those who turned a rich country into a destitute one.(Veny) |
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10-20-25 carib
Cardenal Pietro Parolin pidió "abrir las prisiones injustas y dejar libre a los oprimidos en Venezuela"
Durante la misa de acción de gracias por la canonización de los primeros santos venezolanos, José Gregorio Hernández y Carmen Rendiles, el secretario de Estado del Vaticano, instó a los venezolanos a no dejar pasar las oportunidades |
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10-20-25 savo
| pana.. it is ancient history... pre maduro... the one that hit our pockets was not Chavez... was Trump I with his stupid sanctions... |
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10-20-25 panasonic
Savo true, but for colores purposes what happens with pdvsa hits our pockets, so it's very relevant.
Other stuff is good for discussion, the political chess board has many players. |
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10-20-25 savo
of course Victor... like minded countries finance each other... that is the way it is... the US finances its friends... and so does Russia and China... that is the way it works...
Or who finances MCM, Guaido, Lopez, etc....? The US.. its is well know that USAid gave money to that gang.
Who finances Zelenksy? Who financed the orange revolution...? or the coup against Chavez?
Incidentally... who finances Maria Elvira?
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10-20-25 victor
María Elvira Salazar 🇺🇸
El “Pollo” Carvajal lo confirmó: PDVSA financió a Petro, Lula, Kirchner, Evo y Podemos.
La izquierda del llamado “socialismo del siglo XXI” unida por la corrupción y el dinero sucio del chavismo.
Mientras el pueblo venezolano pasaba hambre, el régimen usaba el petróleo para comprar poder e influir en toda la región.
Lo he dicho siempre: el chavismo no es una ideología, es una red de corrupción internacional. |
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10-20-25 spal
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